Green feminists

I was listening to the radio earlier and heard an interesting discussion on a statement that seemed to me at first to be ridiculous.  The statement was the idea that environmentalism* was anti-feminist.

The speakers talked about how much** of the advice given to the public on green issues seems to focus on the home and on tasks that, traditionally, have been women's work.  For example, shopping and cooking using local produce and fewer packaged ready meals.  Or using washable nappies rather than disposable ones.  The point was made that this might be all very well for middle class families where the mother doesn't work- spending time every day shopping and washing etc- but for lower income families who can't afford all that, or where both parents work (or single parent families) where they can't afford the time, it's a sometimes unaffordable struggle.

I have to say that part of me was thinking that perhaps we take our modern time-saving appliances too much for granted.  Perhaps sometimes it's a case of not being bothered rather than not actually having the time.  But I'm also sympathetic, especially to the cost argument.  And I was intrigued by the thought that women are affected more than men.  Women have, over the past century, benefited most from the rise in appliances to shorten the time and effort going into housekeeping.  It has given them freedom from domestic slavery.

The fear some of the interviewees had was that by increasing the amount of time spent on housework you would increase the burden on women, many of whom already struggle to cope with juggling jobs and families.  You (or I, at least) can very easily be made to feel guilty because sometimes we don't do things exactly as we would like; we get takeaway instead of cooking, or drive instead of walking, because we don't have time or just can't be bothered.

So what do I think?  Well, thinking over the arguments I think the fears have been exaggerated.  It's not a reason not to make some changes in our lifestyle to be more environmentally friendly.  And yet there is a point to be made.  The care of the household and family is still often seen as women's responsibility- you could use almost the same arguments about health advice as for green issues.  The real problem seems to be that in the eyes of society and the media, women are still seen as the primary homemaker- they may well have a job too, but a woman doing most of the housework is seen as normal, while a man doing most of the housework would get some odd looks.  But (in the case of this argument) shouldn't a man be equally responsible for the environmental impact of the house where he lives?  For the food he (and his children, if he has any) eats, the time and energy involved in running the house?

So it's back to the old question of how to change people's attitudes and unconscious prejudices- I sometimes find myself making judgements about people because they are male or female, and then realising that I have no basis whatsoever for thinking that other than unconsciously assigning roles to people based on their gender.  But I think there is some cause for hope even in that- I realise that the judgements I'm making are flawed.  Society is changing its' opinion- slowly and with a long way to go yet, but it is happening.



*by which I mean trying to live in an environmentally friendly, 'green' way.
**I'm not mentioning green transport because I don't feel it's relevant to this discussion- if men have (traditionally) more influence in the personal car market, women probably are more frequent users of public transport.

I really should write a new post...

But I don't have time at the moment.  So instead, an advert.  Come and see The Sorcerer, University of York Central Hall, 25th-27th February.  More info here.  Go on.  You'll like it.  Even if I am playing a main character. Go on.  Please.

What if Starbucks was like a church?

I saw a reference to this video on Twitter.  It's quite funny but the further you get into the video the more you realise there's actually quite a point there.  What if Starbucks was marketed like a church, using the methods shown in the video?  I can't imagine anyone coming back to the coffee shop in the video for a second visit!  They'd probably have a coffee phobia for life!

It struck me that the coffee shop in the video had got things round the wrong way.  Instead of being greeted as they came in the door the customers were ignored, or got funny looks from other coffee drinkers.  Once they were inside, instead of being allowed to just enjoy what they'd come for (coffee in this case, a service if it's a church) they were pressured into giving contact information and into things they're not comfortable with.  Unfortunately that can be all too common in churches- where people can be so determined to make sure people come back that in fact their efforts backfire, they can seem 'intense' without actually being interested.  Making people feel comfortable and welcomed with interest (but not pressure) is surely the best way to make people feel they can return.  Unfortunately some Christians don't seem to be able to judge when people are feeling uncomfortable.

And the way the coffee hosts talked about 'conversion' and money was probably enough in itself to scare away any potential customers!  Language is another minefield for visitors to church- jargon can sometimes seem like another language (and sometimes it is...when you get into the more charismatic churches no wonder some people feel like they're with a bunch of very weird people!).

How to get long-term church goers to understand that what seems perfectly normal to them can seem odd and pushy to non-church goers is something I've long wondered about.  If you've always been to church it's hard to see that other people could very easily be put off by some of the language used, or might just not know what to do at certain points in the service.

I think this video could help a few people get their heads round this problem.  Whether it can help them do anything to make visiting a church less 'odd' for people who don't regularly go, I don't know.  I hope so!